K and G Equine started out with Kevin and Gary who had the desire of helping unwanted horses. Horses that, for some reason or another, aren’t needed anymore. They are brought to K and G Equine from privately owned facilities, individuals who can no longer care for them and some are rescued from the meat pen at surrounding auctions.
K & G Equine is a place where horses have a second chance to make a difference in people’s lives. What started out as a rescue has bloomed into an equine paradise.
Although Kevin and Gary are both still dedicated in making a difference and saving as many horses as possible, K and G has expanded and has a lot to offer to the equine enthusiast such as outdoor boarding and riding lessons!
Please, feel free to contact us if you have any questions or would like further information! If you would like to come out and view our horses, please contact us via email or phone prior to your visit! Thank you!
Happy Trails,
K and G Equine
LOOKING TO BOARD YOUR HORSE?
K AND G EQUINE IS NOW LOCATED ON THE NORTH END OF EDMONTON!
K AND G HAS ROOM AVAILABLE FOR OUTDOOR BOARDING ONLY
PLEASE CALL FOR MORE INFORMATION
Contact Information
K and G Equine
Kevin Peacock
Gary Anselmo
780 271-1911
780 970-1723
Box 50 RR4
Edmonton Alberta T5E5S7
thewrangler15@hotmail.com
Reviews:
Sunday March 28 2010
http://www.ripoffreport.com/horse-breeders-trainers/kevin-peacock/kevin-peacock-lying-horse-dea-2bc8a.htm
RipOffReport.Com I am warning people about a horse dealer in the Edmonton area.
He falsely advertises horses saying they are well trained when they are merely green broke.
I personally sold him a horse of mine in the beginning of January. At the time when i sold him the horse, the horse was merely halter broke. A few days after i sold my horse to Kevin, he had him on Kijiji stating that the horse had 60 days training and had experience riding in the mountains. He also had the horse up for $1600 more than i sold my horse to him for.
I could imagine that most of the horses that he is buying are the same as my horse was and he is lying to the public.
All of his ads on Kijiji have all upper case lettering. He also uses different names, email addresses and locations.
He is in the Edmonton area.
May 19 2011
Rebuttal
I have never been contacted by any person making the claims made against me here. I believe this to be malicious. All statements here, including the claim of using aliases and the claims of fraudelent advertising, are untrue, defamatory, and could be considered libel. I will not speculate or respond further in this forum, but may initiate legal action.
If you have any questions for K & G Equine Rescue, please contact:
Kevin Peacock @ 780.271.1911
References:
Gary Anselmo @ 780.970.1723
Kim Manti @ 403.801.9472
Vanessa Mooney @ 780.903.8804
Sept 13 2011
Anonymous Comment: A frequent window shopper, I did make note of the kijiji adds with all uppercase lettering. They did not give the name of the seller in the add, and often changed locations although the grammer and syntax generally remained the same, enough to assume it was the same person writing these adds and the claims seemed a little preposterous: every horse they were selling had experience in the mountains, and was very reliable and safe. At this time, I do not believe they were operating K&G Equine.
June 16 2010
http://www.ripoffreport.com/horse-breeders-trainers/kevin-peacock/kevin-peacock-buyers-beware-247a6.htm
RipOffReport.Com
I purchased a gelding from Kevin. I told him exactly what this horse would be used for.
He sold me a beautiful paint that match everything we needed! The ONE thing he forgot to mention his that he had drugged the horse for heaves and for to tell me about this horses condition. When I called him on it all I got was "Gee, thought I told you about that."
So please, try to stay away from this guy as much as possible! Not only did he get my $3200.00, he broke my daughters heart! She cried for days when she realized her new buddy would never be able to keep up with her.
May 19 2011
Rebuttal
He sold me a beautiful paint that match everything we needed! The ONE thing he forgot to mention his that he had drugged the horse for heaves and for to tell me about this horses condition. When I called him on it all I got was "Gee, thought I told you about that."
So please, try to stay away from this guy as much as possible! Not only did he get my $3200.00, he broke my daughters heart! She cried for days when she realized her new buddy would never be able to keep up with her.
May 19 2011
Rebuttal
When this buyer purchased this horse, she was informed by Sharon and Kevin (myself) that this horse had heaves and was given the contact number to contact the vet who had given this horse the first shot of medication for heaves. This buyer was supposed to give this horse another shot two weeks following the purchase of the horse to continue to treat the symptoms of this condition. This buyer knew that she had Thirty days to return this horse and chose not to return this horse in exchange for another horse for equal value. If this buyer had administered the second dosage as recommended by our sellers, she would have had time to determine whether or not this was a horse she and her daughter could work with. I am not aware of whether or not she administered this medication; however, this buyer did not follow up with us.
References:
Gary Anselmo @ 780.970.1723
Vanessa Mooney @ 780.903.8804
Kim Manti @ 403.801.9472
References:
Gary Anselmo @ 780.970.1723
Vanessa Mooney @ 780.903.8804
Kim Manti @ 403.801.9472
December 7 2011 Kijiji Add:
ReplyDeleteHas anybody seen or heard from Kevin or Gary from K and G Equine? I have been trying desperately to contact them via email and telephone for over 2 weeks now with no luck and am getting very concerned. If Kevin or Gary see this ad, please contact me or if anybody knows where they are or sees Kevin or Gary, please tell them to contact me. Thank you.
HEADS UP EVERYONE! kevin and gary of K and G Equine have now "transformed" themselves into Spartacus Stables and moved to River Que Barr. They are the same con artists and have police records, check with your local RCMP and SPCA BEFORE YOU DEAL WITH THEM!THEY ARE SMOOTH TALKERS BUT BIG TIME LIARS. CHECK THEIR STORIES BEFORE GETTING SCAMMED.
DeleteAnd they steel other peoples pictures and horse adds and put it in their own add,just to make them self look better.
DeleteAnd YES pretty soon everybody knows K&G is now Spartacus Stables ! The horse world is a small world and people talk a lot !!! They won't last there longer than they did in Namao!
Beware and don't get scammed !
Spartacus Stables aka K and G Equine aka K and G Therapy and Tack aka Kevin Peacock and Gary Anselmo are operating just off Ray Gibbon Drive close to the Enjoy Center. They recently got kicked out of River Que Barr for not paying their bills. Now operating as Spartacus Stables in St. Albert.
DeleteKevin recently was in court (Morinville) for a trespassing charge. Please check with the Alberta Equestrian Federation, Alberta Horse Industry Branch Bill DeBarr to check their horse scandalous history.
They are con artists, liars, and have caused others to sue them for selling lame horses, slander and defamation, and more. Research Kevin Peacock or Gary Anselmo name and you will see that there are 4 court actions against them, which they always counterclaim as any "good con" knows the system better then the rest of law abiding public. (Go to any courthouse pay $10 fee and ask to do a search)
Public awareness needs to happen as the horses they sell are NOT safe! The have unsafe riding practices, putting children on barely trained horses, and horses that have a rearing history!
Attention parents: check out their facebook profiles: Gary likes naked boys
and Kevin has a picture of himself just wearing his shorts...with comments made about his "package".
They have poor management and horse health care practices! Read the stories below, its NOT a one time thing.
PLEASE PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THESE PEOPLE AND DO YOUR OWN CHECKING, DONT JUST TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.
I am same writer as above and just to have the facts straight Kevin and Gary did pay their bills at River Que Barr, but still got kicked out due to a number of issues.
DeletePhone numbers are all the same for k and g or Spartacus stables 780-271-1711 or 780-970-1723 same people, same problems, read their history here many peoples have had serious issues with them.
DeleteYep, stay away from them!!!!
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DeleteFrom reading all of this here's what I gather.
DeleteKevin & Gary should not be in the business of selling horses.
Maybe they can lightly break/retrain horses. But nothing more serious than that.
It's not a professional business but a small-town one. Nothin wrong with that.
Also sounds like they shouldn't own a business.
Kevin & Gary you sound like you are in over your heads. Why don't you board your horses at a reputable barn, and do some training out of there? Stop trying to sell horses, because you keep getting burned, you keep ripping people off, and spinning crazy lies.
You guys really pissed a lot of people off. Why don't you just lie low?
Kevin every post you make is easily identifiable. You sound like a child, just stop it! Clearly this business is not taken seriously by the horse industry. I'm sure some people are happy at your barn and that's great, but someone else should manage it.
Stop selling horses, stop advertising yourself as a professional trainer.
Board your horses somewhere, do what training you can, and learn how to ENJOY horses again. This is all so silly.
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DeleteFrom Horse Sense Training & Petting Zoo
Beware of Horse Sense Training & Petting Zoo May 12 2013 Police take away from 54410 Range Road 255 Sonya Steiner and Horse Sense Training & Petting Zoo For Abusing a horse not feeding it or water was at 46 dehydrated mare should be at 29. The mare has fraction on right lower just below the eye from 2 inch objected where the mare was hit. chain makes and scars from where Sonya used chains on this mare abusing it. Horse was very thin and Blood all over its face when Police apprehended the Horse was taken to nearby Rescue and treated by Onaway Vet Clinic DR. KIMBERLEY GREYDANUS and transferred to
DR. Sean Archibald in critical condition. Dr. Archibald treated the mare and was released back to the recues. Charges are Penning on Sonya Steiner for animal abuses.
So Please beware of this lady Sonya Steiner and Horse Sense training & Petting Zoo.
This is true I seen the horse was not in good shape after coming back from Sonya place. A little Girl seen her do it.
DeleteBy way Sonya and her friends writing all these thing on here about Kevin and Gary. So Think there Real go see there place very nice.
You can so tell its the same People writing on here.
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That's funny.... I emailed these guys a month ago asking about this exact TB mare. He had her advertised on kijiji as a 3 day eventer etc.... and I asked how her eventing career was... her health history... and if she has any vices. Here is an exact copy of his reply:
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She did good for young girl what we where told.
Did do any thing big.
Healthy all her life easy keeper.
Only
Vices got is can't ty her to a hitching rale. But to a post or cross tys she fine
Kevin
If she was healthy all of her life then she wouldn't have had fractions/been sent to a vet clinic.
Now I am angry. You guys ARE scam artists. What a load of bullshit "healthy all of her life". If you're trying to say this horse had to go to a vet in CRITICAL CONDITION... that ISN'T healthy.
That's proof you would've sold me a horse that was allegedly ABUSED?
What a load of crap! Definitely telling my friends in the horse industry to AVOID THESE GUYS. What kind of people are you?!
I don't know what your issue is with "Horse Sense Training & Petting Zoo" but you're giving them free advertising. I can tell you that I for one have never been in contact with a lady named "Sonya Steiner". But from the sounds of it you're just trying to screw her over like the rest of us!
From what I can read, a lot of these reviews are from pissed off people LIKE MYSELF that you tried to scam. The worst part is you got away with it with some of them... hence the negative reviews!
What a load of crap. I could've bought that horse for my 12 YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRL. I hope someone shuts you guys down. You're bullies, liars, and take advantage of people that don't know enough about the horse industry to avoid being scammed.
That whole "report" is a load of crap too. It's a good thing you guys didn't get scammed.
DeleteThis is laughable "So Think there Real go see there place very nice." Not sure what you were trying to say here Kevin, google translate doesn't have an "illiterate" to "english" translation option.
It looks like you're saying "so if you think they're real, go see their place, it's very nice" ... in that case, that's really nice of you to say about Sonya's place!
But i'd like to remind you that this is a review board for Spartacus Stables/K&G So stop spewing crap about Horse Sense - you just make yourself look utterly childish.. and you're making up false reports for criminal offences... that's ILLEGAL!
This page is about your business & your history of scamming. So quit trying to put other barns down to raise yourself up. Because it's not working. You have an awful reputation, I don't think at this point that it's salvageable.
Hopefully Admin will delete all of this irrelevant crap anyways so that people can see the issue is you guys, and your business.
Just read the employee's reply to the abuse report made by K&G on rip off reports.com
DeleteSounds like these guys got mad when they got charged for trespassing, so they tried to twist it to seem as if the horse was seized. And Anon ^ you're right, false allegations for criminal offences are illegal, and I really hope the owner of that barn is taking up legal actions and suing these guys.
Animal abuse isn't to be taken lightly. These statements written by the owners of K&G or Spartacus Stables whatever their name is, is libel. If you don't know what that is, google it.
Warning to Kevin and Gary. You should have looked up the Criminal Code of Canada before you started publishing defamatory statements:
http://yourlaws.ca/criminal-code-canada/301-punishment-defamatory-libel
"301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years."
It's illegal.
Also, the poster above is right. This is a page about your business, why are you posting about another business .... and then pretending to be another person replying to your own report?!...
"This is true I seen the horse was not in good shape...." It's clearly you replying to your own comment! By trying to add validity to your statement you actually just identified yourself even more as a manipulative liar!
Call 877-376-9902 and ask about their bankruptcy file #24-175-0881 Kevin Peacock and file #24-175-0878 gary anselmo
DeleteIf your taking cash from people and pretending to run a business well this sure looks like FRAUD when you owe others money!
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ReplyDeleteWhy people are triying to be mean to someone or leave bad comment. Everybody have bad experience in there life that does"t mean the sailler are not good.
ReplyDeleteI did purchased 3 horses from those guys And i'm happy with what i have they are good horses they are healty they are broked.And when i call them for anything they always answer
So my comments are really good and i will buy more horses from them.
Katty
These guys are scam artists. Did you know they both have full time jobs the horses have no shelter and are in really shitty positions. My friend bought horses off them one with ringbone and the other extreme bucking she bought theese horses because the ad said they had to get rid of all these horses.
ReplyDeleteThat is a lie Kevin does NOT have a full time job, his full time job is caring for the horses...where do you people get your information from???
ReplyDeleteI have boarded my horses with Kevin for the last year and has treated my horse with nothing but care from tracking farrier time to there deworming to making sure my horses are blanketed on the very cold
ReplyDeleteDays. I know certain people have warn out there welcome and did nothing but bad mouth Kevin after and I can confirm he does care about horses as mine would have end as dog food for being a older unbroken horse in feb. That I'm now riding in June. I have personally seen Kevin take back horses that people bought and found to be too much horse for them and either leave With there money or another horse usually the latter and Kevin is there full time other then to shop or take other people's horses to vet appointments or pick up people's horses coming for training
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DeleteMaybe Kevin is trying to do something nice, but I think that he is in over his head. I recently went to see a horse out at K&G Equine; it was very obvious that Kevin was lying about his personal skills as a rider as well as the condition of the horse he had for sale. Not only was the horse NOT broke like his ad said, it was way too young to have been started. Also, the horse's hooves were in DESPERATE need of attention and it's hind leg looked like it was in pain when load bearing. He has a little assistant or friend out helping him who seems VERY naive about Kevin's skills as a owner/breeder, rider, and trainer. I just urge people to use caution and common sense when dealing with Kevin and K&G equine, I don't want to see anyone get hurt physically or financially.
ReplyDeleteK and G Rescue/Equine/Therapy/Tack is run by Kevin Peacock who claims he was a champion barrel racer. Check your facts Kevin as this is a WOMENS ONLY sport at serious competition levels!
DeleteThey also claim on Kijiji ads that they have worked with Olympic riders. His lack of horsemanship is quite evident; look at pictures on their website. Just drive by their dump of a place on hwy 37 (just East of Namao) with no shelters, horses eating manure, check a recent kijiji ads of a horse licking an ice block because there is no water! (link from k and g therapy and tack other ads)
He is mentally "unstable"...(yes pun intended)and if you listen to him long enough he will prove to you that he is a pathological liar. He cannot spell, and speaks badly of any reputable horse trainers or facilities to make himself look better.
Their ads usually have some very nice pictures.... stolen from other sites.
Untrained, underage, and unprofessional instructors-they certify their students,-a stable cannot certify their students to teach, Equine Canada does that-check with Alberta Equestrian Federation.
Boarders were promised an indoor riding arena, you get a fenced off outdoor arena with lumpy black dirt, (no sand) with a concrete packed path because they don't harrow... It turns into a mud bog when it rains. Lots of riding time.
Not only is it unsafe for horses, riders don't wear ASTM riding helmets...and they charge for lessons and haul in to a community arena which would be liable if someones melon split open. Has anyone asked to see their insurance certificate?
They call themselves equine therapy...yes you will need therapy from the trauma of dealing with them.
If you have information and are willing to press charges or file a police report Con. Dave Hislop deals with livestock and stables/animal act.
Start calling to give everyone a heads up! These people are an embarrassment to professional equestrians.
Please complain to Stables Initative-Horse Industry Branch, heather@albertastables.ca 403-420-5949
Call the SPCA
Humane Society 780-491-3517
Alberta Equestrian Federation-director-Sonya 1-877-463-6233
Alberta Farm Animal Care 1-800-506-2273
Office of Chief Provincial Vet 780-427-3448
file a complaint with Competion Canada for false ads
Sturgeon county animal by-law/agr 780-939-8325
RCMP Con Dave Hislop (livestock) and Brand Inspectors
780-446-2859
Minister of Agriculture 310-3276
Bill DeBarr 1-888-303-1070 Horse Industry
MP Brian Storseth 780-349-8333
Sturgeon Animal control officer-animal density
780-777-4968
Planning and Devolopment 780-939-8275 Sturgeon County by-law animal density is 5 horses/10 acres
If you wish to contact me regarding your k and g experience my e-mail is:
smartypants753@ymail.com
Here is the ad and picture, you can see the phone number is the same as above info ad that they have placed
Deletehttp://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-pets-livestock-for-sale-LOOKING-FOR-THESE-TWO-MARES-W0QQAdIdZ453228077
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notice they dont use their name
Not Sure who you are but know your lier. Kevin never sell lame horse. or start horse to young. if horse was not horse for you. always return the horse. They always take their horses back. even know them take them back after the 30 days up. I bought 5 horses their now all best horse ever had. I kmow of lots people bought horses their very happy.How these Guys fined right horse for you.So dont judge the book by the cover.
DeleteK&G equine does not rip people off I have been riding there for the past year and haven't had one problem. Kevin has been riding since he can remember so yes he does have better skills than you think. For the horse training part he would never lie to a person if he didn't think the horse was ready to go. It may be muddy up there but who cares? It is not there for the looks it is there to help unwanted abandoned or any horse that is no longer for some reason needed or wanted. So If you have so things to say about them why don't you go and see them see what you have to say their face see if you say half of the stuff you said on here to his face!!!!
ReplyDeleteHe does not rescue horses, he buys them from off the track, puts a saddle on them, then tries to sell the for thousands upon thousands more then he paid for them, he lives for ripping people off
DeleteHe Only Bought Two Off the Tack and they still Have them Been Showing one over Fencies Winning.Other One Little Girl Leasing and Doing well with to. Get Fax Strate People.No Does not rescue horses any more He Says cant take chance bring in new horse.
DeleteWhoever is standing up for K&G is clearly a beginner or an idiot. Or Kevin or Gary.
ReplyDeleteIt's not about the mud or lack of facilities - it's about ripping people off. Which they are very good at. Kevin took advantage of my friend who is new to horses by selling her a horse he claimed was kid broke and safe. This horse is NOT BROKE. It does not lope, it barely knows what WHOA means, it barely backs up, WAS NEVER TRAINED TO LUNGE and has CLEARLY never been sacked out. I would love to say this stuff to his face, not that I'd ever see him at a show! Because they don't show! Oh might I add, this is not the first time he has ripped someone off that I know. He sells DANGEROUS horses (thank god they have good minds enough not to have hurt my friends) to BEGINNERS. Claims they are broke. He can't train he is a complete joke and he charges way too much for horses that are NOT BROKE. I will forever stand behind my opinon of them and their facility, it's one thing to take in unwanted horses its another thing entirely to claim your horses are broke and sell them. Why doesn't Kevin show if he's such a great trainer? I'm sure REAL trainers either have never heard of him or know all about him. He is a joke. I watched him give riding lessons to a child riding the LAMEST horse you've ever seen, in a TOM THUMB bit (anyone who knows bits knows that is the WORST bit) TWO handed, are you kidding me? A five year old riding in a shank bit? And a tom thumb? and the horse was lame? It kept walking into the fence and the child was unsure what to do and Kevin was completely useless as an instructor. He has no idea what he is doing at all.
So why has your Grandmother Brought people out and have bought many horses.
DeleteHe Showed horse years with your Grandmother.Get Fax Strate or is becouse beat you every Show that you been in.
I know who you are big lier, so is your friend.Horse was never sold to your friend as kids horse. Your friend picked that horse out of the feild. horse only had 30 days on it not even 30 days of riding and they offered put 30 days more on the horse and then friend was to pay for rest the trainning but didnt.and when she took lessons sat in the arena saying she is to tired to ride any more even on a 28 year old horse. We all were their when she bought the horse. seen sign that the horse was not broke. Horse was Kevin persanel horse. was not even up for sale. but cryed till kevin said he sell it to her. so Kevin sold it to her on payments. that took her over 6 months to pay she could back out of the deal at any time and got her money back.But always told kevin How much like him and hes was best trainer till kevin told her needs to ride. not sit in mild of the area and if not he was not going to teach her any more and that she need to lissen to him.All Kevin got mad at her for beating on her horse all the time.
DeleteExcuse me? First of all you don't know who my grandmother is - secondly does my friend know you are telling lies about her on the internet? Does she need to call the cops on you guys again?
DeleteWhat part of SUSPENDED FROM THE AQHA do you not understand?
And you are retarded, I cannot understand half of what you try and write, seriously you are ridiculous and making fun of you is a good time!!!
I find it hard to believe ANYTHING that anybody has written on here because they all hide behind "Anonymous." If a person is unwilling to put his/her name behind what the mouth is saying, it's not even worth reading. If you want to be taken seriously, put your name out there. I cannot tell what is a lie and what is not.
DeleteWe also bought a "broke" horse from him!! Kevin delivered her because we didn't have a trailer at the time, and then started making excuses to leave as soon as he unloaded her!! When we tried to saddle our new horse we got a big surprise!! She was scared shitless as soon as she saw the saddle, and almost went through me to get away from it!! When I called Kevin to see what the hell was wrong with our new horse, he told me to try hobbling her?? I asked him why I would hobble a horse, and he told me that's how they broke her!! No wonder this horse has trust issues!!! Kevin knew this horse was for our 13 year old daughter, and I have the emails to prove it! There were numerous emails sent and phone calls made to Kevin to try and get my money back. Kevin tried to say that we told him my husband would be riding her, he also asked why would we purchase a horse that age for a 13 year old girl!! Kevin also lied about the age of this horse, he told us she was 6 and she is actually 8. He also didn't tell us that she had had a colt until the day he dropped her off, then we found out she actually had 2 colts!! After I told Kevin that I was going to put a video on youtube showing how broke my new hose was that I puchased from him, then he wanted to trade her for a different horse. I said no because he had already lied repeatedly about this horse. I told him I wasn't taking a different horse from him and that I wanted my money back! He agreed to giving my money back, but then every time I called to see when he was coming he told me he was waiting for a truck to come get her. I told him I would bring her to him but then he said he had no money to pay me!!! So thank you so much for screwing us over!!! I hope you remember how excited my daughter was when she saw her new horse, and I hope you feel like a piece of shit when you think of how sad she was when she realized she would never be able to ride her!!!!! Karma is a bitch and I really hope one day you get what you deserve!!! Anyone who can screw over a little girl obviously has no conscience!! And some of the people commenting on here have the same bad grammar and spelling that you will see on the ads these guys post on Kijiji, isn't that weird!!! And Kevin I would love for you to reply to this and tell everyone your side of it, you seem to be pretty good at trying to turn it around so it is the purchasers fault!! The only thing we did wrong was trusting you!!! We have learned our lesson, and I hope others read this so they don't get screwed over by you!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWow how sad that this has happened to another trusting person! I feel so bad for you and this has happened to so many people from this guy, if there is any way for us to chat away from this site I would love to know which horse you purchased.Something similar happened to me as well from this guy.
DeleteSo Why Did sell horse to Kevin Daughter.Shes having no trouble with the horse now. I seen horse last weekend with 5 year old on it.
DeleteSo Kevin Did take horse back His Daughter has the horse. So what big Deal.
DeleteActually this horse went to auction and was sold as a meat horse!! Kevin's daughter did not buy this horse, just another bullshit story made up by Kevin.
DeleteOriginal poster: you should sign your name if what you say is true. I am trying to find out who is telling the truth and what to believe. If you are telling the truth, why wouldn't you sign your name? (same with anonymous who keeps answering)
DeleteThis guy is a scum bag, do NOT buy a horse off this guy!!!
ReplyDeleteLike many before me, I had a horrifying experience at K & G Equine. Firstly, Kevin sold me a horse for my children that he claimed was 12 years old which I believed .... until our horse needed medical attention. When the vet was on his way out, Kevin informed me that the vet would probably tell me the horse was much older, and surprise, surprise the vet told me the horse was over 25 yrs. old. Unknown to me at the time due to my beginner status as a horse owner, Kevin provided riding lessons to my 5 yr. old daughter. Later I learned it is NOT possible to having insurance for children under 6; therefore my child was not insured! Kevin had my other children ride with bicycle helmets .... yikes! I encourage you to NOT allow your children to participate in lessons given at K & G by Kevin or any of his other inexperienced, under-aged people he calls instructors.
ReplyDeleteBoarding my horse was another nightmare. Kevin moved my horse to a neighboring farmer's yard without my consent to keep another horse company. Our horse became very sick and dehydrated so a vet came out and hydrated her quickly and charged me over $900. A few days later our horse died. Kevin and I diagreed for several days over who should cover the cost of removing the carcus.
Luckily, I moved my remaining alive and healthy horse to Horse Sence and I couldn't be happier! My children now receive lessons from a very knowledgeable, experienced equine expert!!
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DeleteThis sorry is lie Her horse had been cribing and got a stick cought in the stoumack. and mare died from that. their EdI form said mare was 15 years old Randy was signed that owner be for monica so Brand inspector should cought that. So was not kevin saying horse was 15.
DeleteGet sorry right lady. Quick lieing.
If any one taking lessons at K-G know need riding helmets and all coaches over 21. If so bad at K-G why is it so hard get in their all ways full and a waiting listed.
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Deleteand sorry if you think I was "bullying" the volunteer. I respect that she stands up for the place. Good for her. I didn't name call at all. If you think me asking her to "prove" the facility is bullying, then you're a bit off kilter.
ReplyDeleteYou see, Sonya has advertisted herself as a "trainer" of horses. If a person wants their horse trained, for all that money, I simply would like to see what her credentials are. Anyone calls themselves a trainer, look at Kevin. Yet Kevin can't even get a horse to lope, he doesn't sack out colts, he doesn't do anything except saddle a horse and get on it. SHOWING is a way of proving yourself as a trainer. No, not all kids want to show. And that's fine! All I'm saying is the lessons I saw were atrocious years ago - why am I not allowed to say such things? Because it was years ago? How am I to know it's improved? I never lied about what I saw, I probably shouldn't have called it GARBAGE but the quality of lessons back then sure was. If the lesson program has improved and kids are REALLY learning how to ride instead of jack around, that's great. I don't know, to me, riding lessons are riding lessons. If I wanted my kid to get on a horse and ride around aimlessly I would lease one, buy one, or go to a trail riding ranch.
Again You lie have every taken one of Kevin's trainning clinic He does sack out horse. even has horse lying down beside him. Yes lopes the horse.Does every thing with the horse ask your Grandmother. She trained with Kevin. Really Bad even ditching your ownen Family.
DeleteLOL Kevin we can always tell it's you replying, you are either half literate or dyslexic you need someone to type for you you make no sense. At all. You have no business "training"
DeleteK&G equine has such a bad rep out there, aparently they moved their stables to St. Albert and are opening up a tack shop here also. Every other person I talk to about these guys rolls their eyes and says they have been screwed by them some way or another. Avoid these guys like the plague and their tack shop as well!
ReplyDeleteFunny ask around and here but good things about these guys.
DeleteBefore Judging someone take time go meet the guy. talk to him never met guy who wants help some ride and become good rider like him so much. Do ever see them ever bashing other stables No...
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DeleteWe first started leasing a wonderful beginner’s horse, a senior horse in age through K-G Equine. With the horse being older we had many concerns, especially with us being so new to horses. Our endless questions were always answered and the advice and help we received was explained at a level that we could understand and follow. We immediately started riding lessons at the boarding facility with Kevin Peacock, the professional trainer. We learned so much and he was patient and understanding. Kevin always knew when to motivate us forward and when to continue working on something that required a little more time and effort. He always put the horse first during our lessons, and advised us of the signs when he was getting tired and when to quit for the day. When the horse made a turn for the worst, he was very genuine and honest with us. He stayed with us and provided support and comfort while we waited for the vet and again when the decision was made to put him down. We had grown quite close to this horse in a short amount of time. Both owners at K-G Equine helped us get through the loss and were there when we needed them and were open to discussing our thoughts.
ReplyDeleteWith over 25 years of professional experience in all aspects of the equine world, it was no question that when it came to purchasing our first horse that Kevin Peacock would be who we would look to, for help to find a proper fit, as well as boarding our horse at K-G Equine. We discussed what we were looking for and what we wanted in a horse and suggestions were given to us with consideration of our skill and ability level as to what would be best suited for us. Kevin found a horse for us, and we all went to look at her together. He looked her over physically, and chatted with the current owner to find out as much information as possible as he could. He rode her and used his years of experience to truly test this horse out. Once he had confirmed that she was healthy and a good fit for riding for us, we then rode her with him still coaching and talking to us the entire time. We would never have thought to ask the questions he did, nor did we have the ability to really see if this horse would work for our skill and ability level, but as a professional with expertise Kevin certainly did.
We are still continuing to enjoy our time at K-G Equine and look forward to many more years. We are still working with our horse and Kevin to continue to enhance our riding ability and to continue to develop a relationship with our horse. The friendly and social atmosphere with the staff and other boarders, along with the open door policy with both owners makes this a great boarding facility. With the endless knowledge and care of the horses, along with a clean and safe environment makes this an exceptional place to board our horse.
I have been riding at K and G equine since September 2012, initially on a leased horse and then on my own, which I bought from Gary. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed being a part of the community at K & G. When I came out for the first time, Kevin was very welcoming and prepared for my lesson. He was quick to point out an opportunity for me to lease a horse when I expressed interest in riding again, and forthcoming with details around the lease.
ReplyDeleteI’ve found Kevin and Gary to be very approachable and willing to answer any questions I may have, as well as willing to go the extra mile and do things for my horse if I’m not able to make it out to the barn. I have always received prompt responses when I leave a message; I never have to worry about calling numerous times if I need something important.
I also feel that it is important to mention the amount of help I had with my horse when I bought her in December. She was initially very difficult to work with due to being used only rarely over the last few years, and Kevin was always there immediately to help me complete my task and offer advice when I asked for assistance.
In conclusion, I have found Kevin and Gary to be approachable, knowledgeable, friendly, and easy to deal with in every respect. I will continue to board my horse with them, and would recommend their establishment to others. Please feel free to contact me at the number below with any questions.
And if you believe the above then your just plain stupid and have not done your homework on these people.
DeleteCheck the law courts and do a search under their names. AND where is your phone number??????????????
Knowledgeable? Ask them what a half pass is and how to train the horse to do it! I have seen the barely what should be leg yield at a walk, on a wall, being advertised as a half pass by them!
Besides, again this looks like Kevin/Gary paid someone to write it out....
to the anonymous persons who wrote both of the above comments, why didn't you BOTH sign your names? WHO TO BELIEVE? I have been recommended to Kevin Peacock and trying to check them out, it's a nightmare! People should not be allowed to make anonymous comments. Anybody can say anything, positive or negative, and it be completely false, but they get to hide behind anonymity. PLEASE SIGN YOUR COMMENTS. WHO TO BELIEVE?
DeleteMichele Mitchell,
DeleteNames can be falsified online as well. Many people could give you a fake name and Facebook account. There's probably people who have made complaints anonymously so that these guys won't threaten them. They're bad news. I don't know about Kevin's training skills, but as a horse dealer he is really not someone you can trust. They've ripped a lot of people off, and ruined the first horse ownership experience for tons of people. But no one knows who to call or file a complaint to. As for the facility itself… heard some awful things. Yes, always going to have loyal boarders but there are tons of ignorant people out there! They let the kids wear bike helmets… bike helmets are NOT safe to ride in! It's a nightmare to check them out because they're a nightmare to deal with. I really really hope you didn't go through with that recommendation.
K-G is a great place and there are people that don't think so, but they don't let pathetic people to get in there way.. I bought a horse off Kevin I told him I wanted a challenge horse that is willing to learn and me and my horse jake are now cantering and going on trail rides cantering bareback he is awesome and this is all thanks to Kevin and Gary! Do you guys still keep your horses at k-G if so what horses are they?
ReplyDeleteYes thats why every single boarder has almost left!! That place is a dump!
ReplyDeleteThe Place still full as waiting listed.
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ReplyDeleteThis is not Andrea you idiots. And yes I can actually provide the link where your names are listed as being suspended. And she was not removed, she left, because I told her to. Because you don't feed or water the horses in teh winter for days at a time. And the police had to get involved because you are psycho. ;) I'm not Andrea, I'm her concerned good friend
ReplyDeleteLOL THIS IS HILARIOUS!!! Now this is Andrea...and Kevin every word from you on here is a lie, I know that all your close friends that boarded at your stable have since left due to all the bad things that happened there and all the broken promises such as you building shelters, getting an indoor arena and even basically just not caring for the place or feeding the horses properly. Trust me this is not me posting this stuff on here as I have no need for sorry people like yourselves and myself and my horse are much better people for leaving. And the truth behind the reason you tried to "ban" me from your property was due to the fact that you wanted my horse that you sold me so badly and tried telling me that once he was paid in full and his papers and the bill of sale signed by yourself into my name that I could not come onto your property to come pick MY horse up. That's when the police had to be involved. So please do not bash my name on the internet again and move on. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteLOL you go girl. Kevin's response:
Delete"Y you by my hores andrea I ban u from property. i no sell u broke horse i sell you grn horse. i no speaka engla"
Hey everyone heads up! K and G now transformed themselves into Spartacus Stables and moved to River Que Barr! Still the same people Kevin and Gary that are wrecking new horse owners first time experience! Beware there are several police reports on these con artists, check with your local RCMP and SPCA.
Deletehttp://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-pets-livestock-for-sale-All-riding-Lesson-are-on-Wedsday-Thursday-at-Spartacus-Stables-W0QQAdIdZ489509037 using pictures of other people is NOT LEGAL!!!!! AND PATHETIC
ReplyDeleteIs this a serious business? I am getting a red flag I just checked your adds on KIJIJI and do you not have someone PROOF read for you before you post??? I would honestly stay away from this place, I have read the above reviews and I agree you can tell when the Guy from here is responding! You can't make out what he is trying to say. Just like the add on KIJIJI about his place now being full shouldn't it say fill out an application not at apposition??? and we call you back if spot come??? and why the name change people can put 2 and 2 together K&G/Spartacus Stables they are the same adds!
ReplyDeletenot to mention they use FAMOUS riders in their photographs LOL who does that!!
DeleteAnd they completely COPIED one stables adds on Kijiji who through the last 20 years was very successful in boarding horses, in hopes they would be as successful as that stable. But people catch on very quick and are NOT STUPID. K&G a.k.a. now Spartacus Stables are one and the same. They won't last longer than 2 years !!! Who do they want to fool ! Look what happened at the other place ... they where left standing alone with no one left ! You can only screw people for so long ...
DeleteI have a question for Anonymous
ReplyDeleteIf you are so certain and are stating so many "Facts" then why are you posting all this stuff as Anonymous. What are you scared of if what your saying is true. You are certainly harbouring some anger. Would be interested to know what your situation was with K&G. Just saying.
Also I don't think it's necessary to be nasty if you're trying to get a point across be professional about it and not insulting to people who have a different view than you do, just because it seems like you have an issue with K&G it may not be the case with everyone that has had dealings with them. It just seems that you're being very brave hiding behind "Anonymous" with some serious accusations.
ReplyDeleteNo it's not having an issue with them, Gloria. They have been in trouble with the RCMP, and they are suspended from AQHA. For whatever reason. Those horses go days without water in winter, and feed. Do you know how many people have been ripped off? And, when you advertise your stable, you CANNOT USE pictures of FAMOUS RIDERS, especially without their permission. That's illegal, and false advertising. It's not about having a different view it's about animal cruelty and being a danger to society. Selling horses to people who don't know better and saying the animal is something it's not, sooner or later someone will get hurt.
ReplyDeleteI agree with person above! Besides that, Gloria could be anyone... seeing she or he did not leave a last name. Again on the internet Gloria could be ANYONE. Does "Gloria" leave an email address, phone number? ah...no! "Gloria" is just as anonoymous as anyone else on the internet!!
DeleteProbably someone they hired to type for them, because they clearly have dyslexia or something...... Kevin will you PLEASE take your ad down off kijiji? At least take down the pictures of famous riders and their horses, that is illegal. False advertising. You're giving those trainers a bad name.
DeleteWhile you're at it - please stop being involved with horses all together. I've seen your facebook pictures too, most disturbing. Standing in the mirror with an erection while your gay friends say disgusting things is really not too professional?
http://aqha.com/About/Content-Pages/AQHA-Membership/AQHA-Suspensions.aspx
ReplyDeleteIf you click on "Full Suspensions" you will see K&g Equine of Edmonton listed. Twice in fact, one for Kevin one for Gary? I wonder what they would have done to get a suspension. Maybe stealing horses, using fake papers, drugging horses, uh performing illegal surgeries on them? Which is it? Here's the proof these guys are scum.
Called AQHA and they are suspended until 2022 for writing a number of NSF cheques...cannot pay for a $25 transfer?
DeleteWow that's sad. No wonder the horses were not getting fed..
the phone numbers are the same ...
DeleteWell I'm not going to get into a slaming match with someone that doesn't even give a name. I'm glad that you feel so confident about slamming someone behind an "Anonymous" alias that's kind of cowardly.... and just for your information I did make a few phone calls to the SPCA and the
ReplyDeleteConstable that you listed and they don't have anything on either name or the second business name. So unless you're willing to come forth with some actual facts it's time you get off your high horse, how do we know that you're not the fake. Your attacking him personally now that is real mature, I'm surprised that this site allows that... pathetic... get a life.
Really? Who cares about the name? You wouldn't know me anyways. I have listed my name on here a few times already anyways actually. So call St. Albert RCMP and ask about them. I personally think you're someone who is close to them who can type and wants to defend them, because they clearly are like, dyslexic or illiterate. Their arguments make zero sense.
ReplyDeleteI have provided facts, along with other people up there ^^^^ you can read too, can't you? I provided the link to the suspensions list for the AQHA. Is that not proof? I've been there, seen horses in poor conditions, seen lame horses being used as lesson horses, seen the type of horses Kevin has sold to beginners, promising them the horses are trained. I've seen things for myself, lol.
So what more proof do you need? Are you one of his loyal boarders that doesn't know any better when it comes to horses? Sounds like it. and you're ignoring the fact that they use pictures of famous riders in their advertisements, and randomly use show bills from the states? wtf is that? They are MENTAL. MENTALLLLLLL. Not legal to use those pictures and false advertising. lol like hip hop dressage? SO FUNNY.
Well they have 3 stables in the US and 4 stables in Canada.
DeleteSo lady what are you talking about. I called AQHA and they told me they have not thing on them they never had a Suspensions. so who lying here. If I was them I be making copy of this taking to RCMP.
Dan.
To the above ``DAN``looks like it`s Gary that is giving a reply again . Check your spelling we know it`s YOU !!!!!!!!!
DeleteYou must think people are very stupid LOL
3 stables in the US HAHAHAHA and 4 in canada! they need MENTAL HELP OR A LABODOMY
DeleteI did call RCMP and they have not thing on these people.
DeleteI did some calling around and actually there's quite a bit on these guys. Too bad that the law industry won't shut down people like this.
DeleteWell called around can't fined a thing Like know who you where talking too.
DeleteSO Brittany
ReplyDeleteThis does not look good on your part.
Writing all these things on here make look like your lying.
Andrea back with Kevin she and daughter taking lesson with Kevin.
rent house from him and Gary and boards her horse with him.
so think need stop this add and take them off does not look good
Kevin
Proven fact that unhealthy people stick and are "sick" together as proven by above statement.
ReplyDeletePlease check out who these people really are, they claim to have taught at OLDS COLLAGE, BIG LIE, call and ask the Equine Science dept or Human Resources.
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I would like to make a comment after coming across this board of comments and statements.. It really surprises me that there are people out there that can be down right mean and vindictive. Slashing, name calling, derogatory comments, arguing, attacking people. This is a good example how the horse industry has gone down hill I guess. There are individuals out there that cause nothing but trouble amongst those that just want to enjoy there horses and not get caught up in all the drama. This is nothing but stupidity and unprofessional. Shame on all of you for supporting this and getting caught up in this and being recruited to participate in this childish stuff. Focus your energy on caring for your horse and the fun of riding. All of you are victims of all doing nothing but destroying a sport that at one time was a fun thing. Hey spend your time working with your horse not destroying things. Gee its like there are no more good people in the horse industry they all have gone bad. Shame on all of you for feeding all this childish bullshit. Grow up people!!!
ReplyDeleteHey I totally agree with you. I hope people pay attention to your comment. The way I see it is there are a few people that are causing all the problems in this industry. Or is it a case of some people have to musch time on their hands and are to stupid or uneducated to be drawn into all these types of comments. Who are these people? Is it the riders themselves or is it all those horse business people grand standing and causing trouble. Is it all the drama queens that should be doing something to support the industry not causing all this stuff. I find that most if not all of these negative comments about people are usually lies and people getting back at each other. Usually because of their own mistakes or upset at thems or low self esteem. I wish these people would put the fun back into the horse equine industry.. People dont be a suckers and get puuled into other peoples frustrations. Focus on your riding skills.
ReplyDeleteLOL it's called WARNING PEOPLE. Bothered to read the stories? Or do you not care for the welfare of children on half broke horses? Or do you not care about horses who are deprived of feed and water in winter and summer? Wow... you should go ride with Kevin and Gary, you would fit in perfect.
DeleteHey you sound like one of those bad people out there. Destroying what was once a good sport. Go and ride and care for your horse.
DeleteBy warning people that these guys are scam artists it is actually supporting the horse industry. Here's the thing, if these guys sell a horse that is "kid broke" to a family that really doesn't know what they're doing and are new to horse owning and the horse flips out and seriously injures their kid… whose problem is it? This IS the problem with the horse industry. If you read the above comments and filter out everything nasty, you'll see a lot of people were totally screwed over by these guys… Yes, some people are fine and happy but the best thing to do is realize there's a deeper problem here. They lie, and lie, and lie. Yes nasty comments have been made that are probably in an effort to get back at them but the basis of it all is equestrians trying to protect one another. That's part of being a part of the horse industry, having each other's backs and trying to help out the ignorant new horse owners. They may not understand that people may not be telling the truth about the horse they're selling! They may not know the questions to ask! And these guys take advantage of that, that's very very clear. Just thinking about yourself and not about others is more of a problem (in my opinion) than trying to help other people from getting screwed over…
ReplyDeleteIt's still a good sport, I wouldn't get distracted by one review board and say "oh this is what the industry has become, you're destroying what was once a good sport". This is what it has ALWAYS been like, lets not kid ourselves here. It's still a good sport. It's scam artists that ruin the great experience of a new horse for people that don't know any better, and buy a horse that is way more experienced than what they're ready for.
Well I Don't think there in the horse selling business any more. I have not seen any add of there horses on Kijiji For long time. I do Know Kevin Very good Trainer and Teacher His classes always Full. As for lame horses never seen one out there yet.
ReplyDeleteBy the looks of Facebook his clients doing very well. So got be doing some thing right.
lol Kevin you're so stupid. WE CAN TELL THAT IT IS YOU. And the comment below this one too is you. Idiot.
DeleteUhhh what about Sky Happy & The buckskin gelding. FOR SALE THROUGH KEVIN AND GARY. Hmmmmmmm...... lots of lies.
Delete"$2200
DeleteThis Amazing two year old coming 3. Has been started under saddle lightly.
Will make someone great show horse, Trail horse or much more.
So don't miss out on this Filly
call 780 271-1911"
=> Kijiji, posted November 25th, 2013.
Correct me if I'm wrong but uh.. that's the number for you guys. I guess you are still in the horse selling business. I've consistently seen kijiji ads from you guys for horses.... And your facebook page hasn't even been used for weeks........... You guys should be honest about things, maybe you'd be able to salvage your reputation a bit.
Thats my horse Mike not Kevin or Garys horse.
DeleteMane people need get fax state on here.
I been at with them for 4 years now its grate place.
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR!!!!
DeleteEVERYONE HAS THEIR "FACTS" straight except you- Kevin and Gary!
FACT: there are lawsuits against you both and your "business"
FACT: your the laughing stock of the horse industry
FACT: you are both liars and con artists in the worst possible way
FACT: you prey on innocent unsuspecting people just like any common con
FACT: your the worlds worst speller and have no idea of grammar
FACT: your horsemanship is less then poor, you have less then no idea of health care or proper training practices proven by all the above complaints
FACT: you ALWAYS make up stories to blame everyone else
FACT: You wouldn't know the truth as its such a foreign concept
FACT: your in fact "grating" on people so much that people are getting wise
Hey you people. If Got Bad Horse for KG Equine I would say it came from Betty Eid She was taking horses to KG Equine selling throw there and Saying they where kids horses or Broke Horse and Lying to Kevin and Gary and All there staff that they had.
ReplyDeletepeople will voucher for them. I have not herd of bad horse since they stopped working with Betty Eid . Just let Know Betty Eid a meat buyer. She is biggest scam Artist. All us horse people know how that lady works and how hard it is to get away from that lady.
Since They Have not been dealing with her I have not herd any one being scammed by them.
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Admin
I bought a horse at K&G and we knew from the start there was something wrong with the horse she was skinny and expected to be riding even though her feet were like ski's. I was told she was a percheron I knew she wasn't, when in fact she turned out to be a morgan. This horse was owned by an old couple that only rode in the mountains, you know the story..... I knew it was all bull but I could not leave her standing knee deep in mud so I bought her for my birthday and intended to help her. When we picked her up Gary and Kevin were no where to be found their assistant volunteers had her ready to go in the front yard by the driveway, she looked worse than the day I saw her. There was also a lady in the driveway staring up at the upper house saying one was home but wouldn't come out as the other guy went to go find her a replacement pony for her to look at for her kids that was promised after she drove an hour to see them. So anyway the mare literally tried to run me over to get into my trailer., I was wondering what I got myself into, near to tears I was so mad at them and myself. Anyway They had my cheque I had the horse. Got home she could barely walk hence why the volunteers had her waiting in the front of the house, she rocked on her feet for weeks as Kevin who claimed to be a ferrier had butchered her feet the night before and she was in pain. I put her in her own pen with a round bale and she continued to drop weight by the day her hair was latterly falling out by chunks.I took pictures and sent it to them to Gary where he convieniently forgot to tell me they had a lice infestation so he said At first he was trying as if I was a 5 year old how every spring the horses lose their under fur etc I told them I have owned horses for 20 yrs and own horses now, this my friend is not normal. They told me to stop by and they would give me some liquid to put on her for the lice which I declined. When I phoned the vet to get her out I also told her about the liquid she said it would be good for cattle but probably burn my horses hide. Anyway got the vet out and she said the horse was anemic because of the lice and her teeth were not done as I suspected, d I already done deworming and the vet was worried to give her shots until she was strong enough. We treated the lice problem had to supplement her diet and she would get so spooked she actually ran through a farm fence and pulled it down, thank fully not hurting herself. I had the ferrier coming out for my other horses after we had her for about 6 weeks and she started to put on a little weight still could not ride her and she asked where we got the Mare as she was looking at her feet our Ferrier said that her feet were just grown out enough we could ride her if we wanted. Then she said you didn't buy her from K&G did you, please, please tell me u didn't. I said yes and she then related all the clients that got screwed over by them. My ferrier also claimed that occasionally another ferrier she was friends with would go over and hide lameness by shoeing etc and was feeling pretty bad about it. She also said that they bought horses at tofield auction and resold them asap, we were never allowed to see her original sale papers so that is believable. OK that can't be verified by me only saying....So I have to admit after two months of feeding, vetting, and supplementing I did end up with a good natured unbroken or very green mare. We broke her and she was a very good natured wonderful mare in the end. I was also offered to trade at one point for another one of their great horses but why would I just get another horse that god only knows what happened to them.
ReplyDeleteI feel horrible for you. These people are horrible. Horrible to horses and people. abusive, neglectful and manipulative.
DeleteYOU PPL ARE ALL FUCKING MENTAL GET A LIFE!!!! IF YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ALLA BOUT HORSES DONT FUCKING GET ONE, AND LADY IF THIS MARE WAS IN SUUUUUCH BAD SHAPE, WHY WOULD YOU BUY HER, DID YOU NOT TRY HER OUT FIRST AND HAVE A FEW RIDES ON HER BEFORE YOU COMMITED TO A PURCHASE, MOST NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT!!!
ReplyDeleteIt's clear this is Andrea Hammond replying (Kevin's henchwoman), or Kevin, due to the extremely poor spelling and manners. My goodness, you really need to learn how to speak nicely to people! I'd assume by all of the various complaints about "K&G" "Spartacus Stables", whatever the heck they go by.... that is probably an extremely valid review. Why would that person waste their time writing that much..... and lie about it all? It sounds like they bought this horse to RESCUE her. Why on earth would they have a few rides on such a poorly taken care of horse... in bad condition with terrible hooves? If you'd even let her get on the horse in that condition... well then. I'd have to say YOU are the mental one... and you don't seem to know the first thing about horses!! What a sad story to read. Also, don't write in caps... Just makes you sound like you're crazy.
Deleteconsidering Andrea has only owned a horse for a little over a year and has very little riding/training/health and nutrition experience, take her advice with a grain of salt. after all, when SHE got ripped off by them, and wanted to take her horse out of their old place, she had to get the police involved as they claimed a. she hadn't finished paying for the horse when that was not true b. they told her "he's locked in a pen literally locked, you're not allowed on the property" "we moved the horse to westlock" and "we've been leasing him behind your back" isn't that right andrea? so before you say ppl are mental, what's mental is that you forgave them. and "you don't know shit alllll about horses, don't buy one?" well didn't i tell you not to buy your horse from them in the first place? stop acting like you know so much andrea. if not for people on another forum telling YOU that YOU made a mistake and that you should have tried him out better than you did, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on right now. go ahead and continue to defend these people - you won't get anywhere in the horse world. you still need to learn the basics of riding and you sure as hell won't learn it from them. don't come crawling back to me when they screw you over again like they did before. after all, it's in the past right? you forgave them right? all you wanted to do was move your horse. so keep on telling everyone how great they are, when you yourself with the little experience you have don't know what you speak of.
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DeleteLOL Andrea, let's not forget that the only horse show you've been in was on MY HORSE. I let you show MY HORSE and take home all your winnings. It was Stacie and myself who got your horse loping. Who taught you to ride? ME. Don't tell me I don't know anything about this barn, it was ME who supported you during your nightmare with Kevin when you wanted to leave the barn. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, Andrea. I am the one who taught you 80% of what you know. Don't forget that. and I thought you were done posting here? I never said I was amazing, but I do know i'VE been riding my entire life, and have ridden with some of the best trainers in this province. So when you come on here calling people "fucking mental", keep in mind that it wasn't long ago when you yourself were on here posting about your problems with Kevin. It's pretty pathetic that you attack people who are posting about their bad experiences with them - not only that but you're name calling and attacking them, imagine if someone had done that to you a couple years ago? Enjoy being a beginner forever, for someone with hardly any experience with horses at all, you sure act like you're in the know.
DeleteLOL oh yes Im sorry where does it say I was the poster of that comment??? Pretty sure it doesnt and most comments I post on here say my name, and secondly I rode with you i'd say a handful of times, many of those times we worked on getting my horse to do a slow jog, you didn't teach me to canter at all, I have come a long way since last summer and since you have even seen me ride, mostly of all I have worked on a ton of canter work with Kevin and Onyx and I can grab him out of the field and go gallop in my back field no problem, he doesnt even bat a bad eye. You did not teach me any of that at all! Wow you let me enter a few walk trot classes with your dead broke show horse good on you! You may be a good rider but you are not a very good person judging things one again you have not seen with your own eye!!
Deleteit's obvious that you're the only one defending them Andrea - come on. how many times did I come out to your new place and get on your horse and get him loping for you? quit lying. and no, we worked on teaching him to bend, teaching him transitions and I spent time teaching YOU how to teach him. Don't lie and say I didn't teach you to canter at all. You're so freaking ungrateful, yes I did let you ride my dead broke show horse (that I broke and trained BY MYSELF) and you went and won on him. you're so ungrateful. I have seen it with my own TWO eyes. Let's not forget how Kevin was about to come geld my friends miniature stallion. I just about called the humane society on him for that. Have fun galloping around in a field. You probably still can't even tell what lead you're on. Quit lying and acting like I didn't lope your horse, the first time I got on him was at that arena and you and all your so called friends saw me lope him probably for his first time under saddle.
Deleteoh and I see your barrel racing pictures too on their facebook page - nice splint boots! a set of 4 professionals choice splint boots that I GAVE TO YOU. Yet another thing I've gone and done for you and that horse. Thank god i got the rest of my tack back from you!
DeleteSorry but no if you look at the picture they are turquoise boots that Kevin gave me, yours are sitting in my basement and have not been used ONCE! Do you honestly sit on facebook all day and creep their facebook page and this forum??? Honestly Brittany that was over a year ago you came out here when the place was run by Tom, not by Kevin! I never lied once and said you didn't lope my horse so please show me where I said that! And I have a lot of fun galloping in the field and doing trails I enjoy it a hell of a lot more than hanging around some snot nosed show people like you! At least it is the fun part of owning a horse! Instead of riding around in a ring constantly. And we work constantly on bending which we do in lessons thanks though!!! Once again you have not seen me ride in a year, have never been out to the farm, and have not seen my horse! So keep on entertaining me on this forum!
DeleteAndrea don't say I havne't been out to your farm, that's where i got your horse loping. and julia came once too, remember? well if you're not gonna use my splints I'll gladly take them back!
DeletePaul and Candace you really need to stop this bashing and move on and keep your nose out of other peoples lives. YOU two are the ones that got removed from the stable due to your constant lies, coming into the property beyond hours and just general lies to everyone at the stable. Everyone knows Candace does not ride her so called dressage horse and you are nothing to MLM which you say you "train" at when I have in fact called them myself and noone there has ever HEARD OF YOU. I have also seen you handle your horse, you are scared beyond belief and have never even sat on it, you had asked me to come help you "catch" your horse, when I said no due to the fact my child would be left in the house you started bashing the barn and myself.
ReplyDeleteAlso to the lady who bought the horse I would like to know which horse you purchased.
Here's the thing. Either side can say all they want about Kevin and Gary, Spartacus Stables, K&G Equine, ETC. But you know what? The equine community is very aware of their corrupt business methods, and the fact that they sell green, untrained, dangerous, or sick horses!!! Ask around. Go ahead and call some vet clinics, or farriers too. I've done some research this week and am shocked at what little regulation there is for our equine friends, and THEY are the ones that are suffering. You can live in ignorance all you want, but those horses are the victims here. There are some really nice people at Spartacus Stables. But maybe if it was managed by different people it would go from an okay place, to a great place. But face the facts people... it's far from wonderful. It's clear that there are lots of angry people out there that have had a terrible experience with these guys... It's not about bashing the barn, or starting all sorts of drama online. It's making people aware of the FACTS. I'm not affiliated with any of the above people, but I feel the need to speak out. I have had students come into my lesson program from Spartacus and was absolutely APPALLED at habits they'd developed and stories they told. One of my students looked at purchasing a horse from them, and when we brought up a question to our farrier about the horse's hooves she also said PLEASE tell me you're not looking at a horse from K&G Equine... did some research and found out K&G and Spartacus Stables are the same and discontinued any business with Kevin Peacock, Gary Anselmo, or Rylee Mallo.... It horrifies me that there are people who would buy a horse from these guys. As for lessons/training... I have no idea. Maybe the training program at Spartacus Stables isn't terrible. Kevin could be an okay trainer for all I know, when he puts the time into it instead of flipping horses for sale.... As a riding coach: I would NOT recommend him - the quality of lessons is reflected by the cheap price. When I read that they allow the use of bike helmets I CRINGED. Can you imagine if a kid fell?.... Those flimsy plastic helmets would shatter on impact and possibly cause more damage than if they weren't wearing one at all!!!! As a boarding facility... well who knows. Maybe the good people that are there keep the place running and safe for the horses... but we can only hope that. I wouldn't listen to anything from this Andrea Hammond however... she sounds extremely rude.. and I wouldn't want to deal with such craziness at all!! I found this complaint page about Spartacus Stables (which also raises many questions..) http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Spartacus-Stables/St-Albert-Alberta-T8N-4J7/Spartacus-Stables-KG-Equine-KG-Therapy-and-Tack-Kevin-Peacock-and-Gary-Anselmo-Liar-1143641
DeleteI think if you've had a bad experience with them you probably should report it under this page as well, due to the fact this review page has seemingly become the spot of fights.
I'm sure that these people (i,e: Kevin and Gary) had the right intentions when they started this facility. However the amateur manner in which it is run really shocks me. Maybe they got distracted by money along the way and this caused them to lose sight of what is really important - the horses. Of course, they're going to have friends and loyal boarders - like any barn. But when there is such a high volume of complaints... well I'd hope that people realize if it happens once - maybe it's an unreasonable person. But when it's multiple complaints there is SOMETHING wrong! I hope that people do their research before buying a horse from these guys.
It is so sad to read these stories. I will not leave my name or a way to contact me, due to the fact that it sounds like these guys make threats and wrongfully drag people's names through the dirt. To save my name and reputation this complaint will be made anonymously. It is also sad that this has to happen, but when you're dealing with shady people you can never be too careful.
Give your horses a hug everyone, and for THEIR sake... do some research on what your barn should be providing you before you board there. I wouldn't send my child to a daycare that had no snack time, left my kids out in the rain or blistering heat during the day with no refuge or water, or left them alone with no supervision. Horses depend on US to take care of them... it's a big responsibility, and if you can't afford quality care for them... maybe you shouldn't own one.
Deleteandrea, im asking you to remove this post, referring to myself and paul.
Deletejust found this tonight i have never posted here. my forum is facebook.
and I find it deplorable that you have used this forum to call paul and lie about myself and credentials,
your two "friends" were people that were manipulated by kevin and gary and one almost lost their career and posting in the military, and recived warnings on their files because of them.
i also for the record was pregnant with my 3rd child wilst having a 3 month old on my hip as well and dealing chaos around me.
please edit the post.
First of all half of these comments are very untrue. NONE of the kids in Kevin's riding program wear bike helmets....NOT ONE they all wear proper riding helmets that are ASTM/SEI approved. Secondly the horses do not go without food and water...EVER! Thirdly there is not much horse selling going on anymore, yes maybe the few horses in the past few months but not much compared to what it used to be. Seriously you people should maybe give us a call and come see the stable and riding lessons for yourselves instead of sitting behind a computer screen reading comments from angry people that were asked to remove their horses from the boarding facility due to the fact that they were causing issues. Seriously people maybe things were not amazing in the past have not been great and it was a learning curve, but I can assure you things have changed and our facility is very nice and well kept. I am done reading all of these websites and reports because most of them are not true business reviews but just meant to hurt people. I highly suggest you all make an appointment to come view the facility for yourselves and make up your own mind.
ReplyDeleteSorry Andrea but I wouldn't want to board my horse at a place that's on a "learning curve". I want equine professionals who know what they're doing!!! I don't believe these reports to be malicious in manner, but as a community we do have to warn each other about con artists and bad horse dealers. I've heard multiple, multiple times about Kevin himself horribly slandering other barns - this is utterly and completely unprofessional. If he were to warn people of TRUE FACTS at another barn that is one thing, but making up terrible stories is just horrid. I would never, ever want my children to be taught by someone that manipulative - regardless of how nice a facility looks, or how great his training skills are. I believe someone's character speaks leaps and bounds, and I want my children in a positive and truthful environment. Again, there are students in my lesson program that came from yours and some of the things they were told about other barns are just atrocious, and EXTREMELY untrue… I did research AND call these other barns. I've talked to Kevin before on the phone and I swear he makes up things on the spot! When asking students why they chose Spartacus Stables in the first place they all said the same thing: because it's cheap!! Again the amateur manner in which the facility is run is shocking.
DeleteFor the naive horse owner I definitely believe this facility is lovely. But I've seen videos of the extremely dusty arena… how can you even see?… and photos of "shelters" on site from my own girls. Again, the naive horse owner will probably not know what to look for and from the sounds of it when they start figuring things out they get angry and you guys kick them out… how is this the horse owner's fault for wanting quality care? I really don't get it.
They've damaged their business reputation, maybe beyond repair but maybe not. I haven't seen the facility but we'll be sure to visit. I did call the bankruptcy people and in fact, both have filed for bankruptcy. I don't know what this means for the business but I hope it won't affect the horse's care.
Anyways we can go back and forth all we want but here's the facts:
- Unfortunately due to the way our province deals with these kinds of situations, it'd take a lot of work to actually shut down the business
- Because of this I surely hope these men do have help from people running it that have some knowledge of equine care
- I will not refer any clients of mine to these people, and have urged others to not as well
- As a community we are aware of the business practices of Kevin and Gary and will continue to warn people about them.
These statements are not made in a malicious manner, but I say them with the best interests of my clients and naive horse owners everywhere. And also to parents - a facility can look wonderful on the outside, but what kind of people are running it? I agree with you Andrea, I sure hope people do their research.
Andrea, I've also noticed a comment made on May 8th, 2013 from an "Andrea". And later Kevin mentioned you were "back on property" leasing a house from him and Gary. Put two and two together… I'm believing that you are the same. Some phone calls may confirm this. It sounds like you also had a rotten history with them where the police had to get involved?
DeleteHmm. Not sure what to make of that but I'm interested to hear a response.
I currently have my child enrolled in lessons at Spartacus Stables. After reading this page, I believe I will have to discontinue business with this barn. I'd just like to confirm that students are indeed allowed to ride with bike helmets… Until I read this page and did some research I had no idea this was dangerous. In hindsight, I'm kicking myself in the butt for poor parenting… She could've gotten more injured by wearing a bike helmet than not wearing a helmet at all…. and my child will never be allowed on a horse without a helmet. Ever. I get that it's a personal choice, but personally, I want my child's brain kept safe. We will have to research some proper riding helmets. This deeply concerns and disturbs me, that we were not made more aware of helmet safety.
DeleteAs for the horse's conditions I can't say much because I know very little about horse care. The facility is rough around the edges, I just wanted my kid to learn how to ride. I am greatly concerned, and will be looking for a facility that can offer me some safety & stability…. and proof of insurance…..
Yikes. It is really scary to realize how little I knew about how to keep my kid safe in something that seems so simple… I'll be sure to speak to some of the other parents about this issue. Thank you everyone who has written a review on this page…. otherwise I would have never thought about any of this..
I'm glad you took these comments to heart. I've seen first hand the "quality" of "lessons" given. Not only will your child be a beginner for her entire life, she will be a rider with terrible skills. I saw Kevin teaching a girl once - the horse was EXTREMELY LAME, being ridden in an advanced bit that NO child should be using! and this poor girl could not get her horse to move off the fence. The horse refused to move, likely from pain and confusion. Kevin had nothing to offer. Every rider I've seen who has been taught by these people had very poor habits. Not to mention the condition of the horse and the safety for the child. The place is run by idiots. Run far far away! Just about any other stable is a better choice. I'm afraid anyone who rides at this place will be stuck at a beginner level for life. All the lies Kevin and his "staff" (who have no experience at all) are very easy to see on this site alone. I feel so badly for anyone who rides there. Can't wait to see his "hench woman"s response. Likely will be written in all caps and be calling everyone names. People who are beginners themselves have NO BUSINESS running a stable.
DeleteYes… it makes me very sad that I've spent hundreds of dollars at this barn and my daughter still doesn't know how to canter. She once rode a horse that had a limp and when I asked Kevin about it he said it's just the way the horse moves and was a little stiff in that leg but it wasn't a problem. It never really sat well with me but I figured he's the trainer and I don't know anything about horses so I didn't push. He comes across in a very friendly and convincing manner though, and I didn't think anything was wrong until I started to do some research. Once again thank you for the reviews…. otherwise I would have never known.
DeleteYes… it makes me very sad that I've spent hundreds of dollars at this barn and my daughter still doesn't know how to canter. She once rode a horse that had a limp and when I asked Kevin about it he said it's just the way the horse moves and was a little stiff in that leg but it wasn't a problem. It never really sat well with me but I figured he's the trainer and I don't know anything about horses so I didn't push. He comes across in a very friendly and convincing manner though, and I didn't think anything was wrong until I started to do some research. Once again thank you for the reviews…. otherwise I would have never known.
DeleteAt least you realize it now - good luck to you and your daughter in your future endeavours
DeleteI am out here everyday there are lessons and I have not once seen any child or adult wear a bike helmet so this is pretty funny to read
Deleteso the mother who posted on here is a liar?
DeleteI was forwarded this page from the mother who previously made a comment. I also have a child in the lesson program, and will also confirm my daughter has been allowed to wear a bike helmet. We are not liars.. Just didn't know any better. Many people do not wear helmets at all at this barn. I believe if they own a horse they are not required to. However, it is disturbing to see young ladies standing on their horse with no helmet. Just the facts...
DeleteMy child takes lessons at Spartacus stables…. well did take lessons….. not anymore…. I wanted to leave a nice review since we know nothing about horses and just thought it was all normal. Guess not. Appalled now that my daughter wore a bike helmet, I did not understand the risk. yikes. Time to find a new barn..
Deleteyes, bike helmets are rated for a fall 2 feet or less, in kids. a equestrian helmet is ATSM rated for high and hard impacts.
Deleteand your insurance you could not claim since you were not wearing appropriate riding protection. go to Tudor tack or lammles, welshes, and get a proper fitting for a helmet. tudor has a fitter on staff to ensure your fit is great for your child.
You can contact me by telephone or email my phone # is 780-966-4065 and my email is andrea-hammond@hotmail.com, I am not posting on these forums any longer. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI cannot believe how many rude, vendictive people there are. I have visited the property and have seen the care and attention they give to the horses and also to their clients!!!
ReplyDeleteThat's nice - but only beginners and people who have no idea what's right or wrong really know what they're talking about. Sorry to burst your bubble. Anyone associated with this "stable" can be summed up as either people who don't know any better, or people who don't care to learn. if you're working alongside these people, you can expect to be stuck as a beginner for the rest of your life. Anyone who is a real trainer, has horses they've trained from scratch and are winning at the big shows. and have clients who are also winning. It's not so much about actually WINNING, don't get me wrong. Showing is fun, and it's the only way to display your true talents. Kevin and his "students" won't get too far in even the lowest levels of competition. it truly speaks volumes. So congrats on visiting the property and seeing the so called care and attention given to the horses, that doesn't mean a thing. Where was the care and attention a couple of years ago, when the horses were not fed or watered for days on end? some things are not forgivable
DeleteIt is very true how ignorant people really are and sit behind their computer screen! I love our barn and the people that run it and ride and have made a ton of awesome friends out there! The grounds have come a long way and are starting to look amazing, I get excited everytime I come up the driveway, keep up the good work Kevin & Gary
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DeleteI also think they are doing great work. Obviously some of you have way too much time on your hands!!
ReplyDeleteAll of the comments should be taken into account (good and bad) if you're thinking of choosing 'Spartacus Stables'
ReplyDeleteThe bad do seem to heavily outweigh the good though...
I myself am another 'unfourtunate' victim of Kevin&Gary's scheming ways. Naive beginner to the equine industry believing every lie these guys seemed to spew out. Any-who, maybe they have 'changed', maybe not, but all I can say is weigh your options, and do some research, there is a TON of much much better riding center's and stables in the area.
Came to take a look at this place a couple weeks ago, I was searching for a place to board my horse. I live in Edmonton and thought it would be nice to have a training barn for my horse and I, so close!
ReplyDeleteWas very disappointed when I got there. The arena was extremely dusty, both indoors and out. I saw a so called lesson being given - a small child was wearing a green bicycle helmet, legs stuck straight out in front of him, his hands were up to his chest because the reins were so long. The instructor did nothing to correct it???? That is not correct or safe riding by any means. I was about to say something but figured it is not my place. The horses in the pasture were an average weight, so it doesn't look like they are starving. The water trough was very low. On such a hot day, with so many horses, they need water all day, and lots of it. It didn't look like anyone was planning on filling it anytime soon :(
I did see a young lady come out of the house on the property, I believe that is this Andrea girl who has been posting here? I am told she lives on the property anyways, can't be sure. She was a shorter girl, bit chubby, and was outside playing with a little blonde girl, perhaps her daughter or she was maybe babysitting ?
Next thing I see is her dog come out of the house and as he walked past the little girl, he accidently bowled her over. Little girl did not cry at all, tough little thing. But then Andrea (or whoever lives in the house) began to yell at the dog and kicked him in the head several times. It was quite alarming to watch, as the dog hadn't done anything wrong. She kicked him repeatedly, very hard, and threw him back in the house. This made the little girl cry and she got yelled at, swore at, and then also thrown back in the house. The entire situation made me turn around and leave. I will not be boarding there. With the way I saw the instructor failing miserably at what he gets paid to do, and the hot temper of the lady who lives in the house, I am afraid this place will not be a good match for me. Shame though, because the location is so perfect. I have read this review board before I checked the place out, and I can confirm that the negative reviews are indeed valid. Everything from the bicycle helmets, and to the responses from Andrea, very loud seeming and quite immature. Calling people "fucking mental" is not a good business practice at all. If I were a mother and had a child in the lesson program here, I would absolutely be taking the child out of lessons. Nevermind the poor training techniques and legal issues. It seems as if the place is run and managed by a bunch of lunatics. Not the kind of place I would ever want my animals kept at. I encourage everyone to pull their children and horses out of this facility and find a better place.
This is a very mean and harsh post. I have been friends with Andrea for years and have never seen an abusive side come from her what so ever. especially when it comes to her daughter and animals. This post seems to attack Andrea more than anything and is absolutely rediculous and a lie also. If I saw someone kick an animal why would you not take a photo and report it?
DeleteThis is ridiculous! I have known Andrea for most of my life and have never seen aggression toward her dog or her daughter! I do regular grooming services for her and her family and I think your out of line. If this truly happened and you were truly upset why not find management?? Why leave with intent to post something negative. Clearly your not that mature yourself... This is a straight up attack on Andrea. She does not run or own the boarding place. I suggest you remove your post considering this is slander toward Andrea
DeleteFirst of all wow - Andrea and I may not be friends anymore and have exchanged words but whoever wrote that load of crap is off their rocker. She may have a bit of a temper as shown on these boards but I have never seen her mad when we would hang out. Never saw her speak harshly to her daughter either - and there's no way in hell she would do that to a dog or any other animal.
ReplyDeleteThat is a strange attack on her. This is another reason why I cringed when she became friends with these guys again. Nothing good comes of it. But yeah - Andrea is not an abusive person. At least, not to her family and animals.
I can't agree more. this is not of her nature.. she'd rather catch the fly than kill it so to speak.
Deleteher daughter is a good kid too so I think the poster has someone confused with someone else. has to.
Don't tell me this place is still open?? Pathetic!!!
ReplyDeleteMy guess after reading all of this is I am glad I looked elsewhere.. From hearing from others and watching from a distance They need to be run off!! Plus I have heard from a few boarders that still have their horses there that they are rather crooked !!!!
ReplyDeleteFirst of all OUCH! I have never met anyone named "Jess" come out to the farm and shame on you for putting a lie like that on the internet. Also saying I swear at my child? You should be ashamed.
ReplyDeleteSecond of all I am not a "barn manager" at the farm I simply live in the house on the property and if someone asks for my help I will give it, otherwise I work everyday and spend time with my child when I am not at work. I would appreciate it if my name would stop being drug through the mud.
no, your not a barn manager, and honestly you have never sworn at your daughter. but your a mom, and some people just don't understand, or care to.
Deletealso andrea, I just discovered this blog last night through a friend from Vancouver and came across a quite nasty post you made.
The military had to get involved after false accusations were made by gary and kevin and it ended up that the two that you mentioned, because of the lies, one of the two were demoted in rank. that's rank and their pay. because of kevin and gary and how they manipulate people into believing their lies.
you work hard and support your daughter and your household and on public record, I've been there and I want to say in this public forum, I've met you, I know you, and all in all, after been through the wringer myself and having been a single mum, your doing good.
please don't lie online about people beucase your angry or stressed, just scream into a pillow and move on.
have a good Christmas and holiday.
Is it still a "cash only" basis?? Can you say "SCAM"
ReplyDeleteI am curious as to how they stay in business.. Are people that desperate to board there horses there?? So many bad reviews and comments.. Looking elsewhere for sure..
ReplyDeleteThis place is disgusting, algae growing in the troughs and never cleaned out, barely enough feed for the horses, I don't think the paddocks have EVER been cleaned, and kevin gets everyone else to do his work around there and is hardly ever there, only on days were he can make money on his cash only so called riding lessons. people complain and he blames others becae he is too fat and lazy to do any of his own dirty work....or maybe too scared to get his fingernails dirty.
ReplyDeleteI stopped by Spartacus Stables yesterday to possibly board my horse close to home, when I pulled into the driveway I saw and heard some screaming and yelling come from the home and saw a chubbier guy push some younger lady. I turned around the minute I saw this going on. I am defiately looking elsewhere to board my horse. Seeing that abuse and reading all these negative comments should defiately be looked into by the humane society and RCMP.
ReplyDeleteI hope the young lady presses charges. Very sad.
ReplyDeleteThe Young Lady was trespassing and was taken away for Drug trafficking By the Police. Andrea what caught with Drugs All so. The Young guy did none thing Wrong he's the one was stopping her from hurting the others in the home.
DeleteNo one was charged with drugs!!! And no the young lady was not taken away by the police.. I was there.. Still lying, Kevin and Gary.. What a shame for supposed wanna be business people to post untruths.
DeleteDrove in there today. I see nothing has changed since I first checked out the place a couple months ago!!! Moving on for sure .
ReplyDeleteJesus Christ this page is a nightmare. Anyone with a brain would avoid this place solely because of all the DRAMA it is!!! One bad review can be written off as a high-maintenance boarder or buyer with high expectations. But oh my god there are tons of people complaining about being ripped off or an apparent lack of training skills. If you have a brain, you'll just move on and find another barn to take your kids to or board your horses at, and a different coach to train them. Dear god, I cannot imagine dealing with these people.
ReplyDeleteIT'S NOT TONS PEOPLE COMPLAINING IT'S SOME ONE JUST USING DIFFRENT NAMES. IF LOOK AT THE WRITTING WRITE THE SAME WAY.
DeleteTHEY EVEN WENT AS FAR MAKING UP THIS BLOG SO NO ONE CAN TAKE IT DOWN.
IF ANY ONE HAS ANY IDEA WHO INVOVED WITH THIS BLOG PLEASE CONTACT THE ST ALBERT POLICE.
THEY ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH SPARTACUS STABLES TO CATCH THESE PEOPLE.
NOONE CAN EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAY.....RETARD
Deleteyou know that you made this blog when you were k and g. you and Vanessa had the best intentions but your true character has shone through.
DeleteTo lie and say that someone made this out of spite to bash you, everyone can see through that lie like sheer linen. the police are not investigating and never have and won't. its a civil matter, no criminality in it.
people here on this blog are honest people have said the truth about you and your running of the facility like you ran k and g and were evicted.
im glad I left k and g and moved to morinville avoiding this Spartacus establishment.
you are a sham. and Vanessa should not be dragged into this because you forgot your passwords and log in kevin.
the past will catch up to you and those you have scammed. k and g was shut down and this new Spartacus thing wil be shut down. if it was like how it was when I left, I can only imagine the hell hole you have recreated again now.
please use spell check, or is that cheque. lol Kevin to are so easy to find.
DeleteGets worse instead of better!!! Shame on them..
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know if this is still a cash only type of operation!! Could be a clue right there..
ReplyDeleteNo this is not Cash only place. Never was.
DeleteLOL Kevin you need to go back to school, your an illiterate idiot!!!!! No one was charged with anything and the person arrested was released as soon as she told her side of the story and the police saw how much of an idiot you are!!! This blog is nothing but the truth about you losers, hence why you are being EVICTED FROM THE PROPERTY AND ARE IN A LAWSUIT WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR YOU NOT PAYING YOUR RENT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON END!!! One time there was no hay and Kevin told the barn workers to take the scrap hay that was all over the property and feed it to the horses!!!!! DISGUSTING!!!!!!! Everyone knows you guys are the laughing stock of the horse industry in Edmonton and I am so ashamed at myself for EVER getting back into contact with you nut cases!!!!! This drama allllll started because the owner of the property came to me while I lived on the premises and asked me to post eviction letters everywhere stating you and Gary are being evicted due to you owing $12,000 in rent!!!!!!! But yet you both drive fancy trucks, live in a fancy house and are supposedly buying a house in Phoenix...hmmm seems pretty scammy to me!!!!! All you guys do is use people. This is the third place you have run your so called business out of in two years....that definitely says something!!!!
ReplyDeleteI have never been arrested a day on my life so keep on tellin your lies :)
Im also ashamed of myself for ever sticking up for you on this BLOG!!!!!
ReplyDeleteyour like the wind, you never know what direction your going. good today bad tomorrow. that's why your the crazy lady.
DeleteLOL this was over a year and a half span....and if you knew me you would know that :) I left the shit hole K&G because Kevin tried to steal my horse when I told him I was leaving his stable and going elsewhere. I had to get the police involved to get my horse off the property. Then I moved to the farm where Spartacus is now...and I lived there 6 months before these guys contacted the land owner and said they wanted to run their business on the property. The land owner asked me what I thought of these guys and I told him exactly how I felt and Kevin and Gary came up to me at the house and tried to make amends. I am a decent person and gave them a second chance. It was good for the first few months and then things started getting weird and I started feeling used. Boarders were constantly coming up to me and complaining when I did not work for these guys!!!!! I signed a lease with them to pay $1500 a month for rental of the house, and they never gave me a copy of the lease. When I finally got one after asking for a YEAR they gave me one and changed it without me signing it saying the rental of the house was $2500 minus $1000 for keeping care of the stable when they were away which was always. THIS WAS ALL WITHOUT ME KNOWING!!!! Then the land owner came up to me and asked me to help him evict these guys due to them not paying rent. He was telling me one thing while Kevin and Gary were telling me another!!!! Ya maybe I pissed some people off in standing up for these idiots but I did learn my lesson and will not trust anyone off the bat again. Say what you want about me I really don't give two shits!!!! I have finally left this shit hole and will never look back!!!!!
DeleteI also suggest you quit harassing me, I have moved on and don't appreciate you sending me invoices for $6000.00 for nothing when you did in fact give my damage deposit back for the house!!!!!! PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE
ReplyDeleteIt is called desperation.. Al least we got a few laughs over this!!! Always remember what goes around comes around. Oh and by the way Kevin, it was you that pushed the young lady.
Deletewe all know it was kevin. he is a arrogant SOB.
Deletelol, love your ' leave me alone'. your one crazy lady. all those rants, look at you now . booya can I have a hoora.
Deleteto all who read this post, in the beginning I and my family was vilianized and painted as liars and trouble makers. we stood up and pointed out what was clearly deficiencies and improper barn management protocols. Andréa I have no sympathy for you, you deserve what you received. I am kind of happy in your pain to be honest. to the rest of you, cheap is not always good. to the managers of Spartacus you can lie only so long. I will be standing waving a flag when you are run out of this stable property and ill post photos. I guess having a ' uncle' own the property is no help when you cant pay rent. my only hope for you two is you go into bankruptcy so you loose your combined ability to hurt others and the animals they love. do you still try to bully people into signing a no comment agreement. you guys make me laugh.
ReplyDeleteI have no pain at all Paul Just learned my lesson!!!!! Kinda weird you say one bad thing, but your wife is emailing me wanting to talk!!!!!
Deleteandrea, yes she did email you, and I saw the email. there should be no foul. you were both screwed over by these folks.
Deletesorry for that if it bothered you. god bless.
hi andrea
DeleteI emailed you for two things but since you wanted to bring this into a public forum, ok
wanted to give you the name of a decent lawyer, since these scumbags don't know what low blows are except in a sex sence, I dont' want you to loose your job by bad slander and workplace harassment. they lie, they will do anything to ruin your life, we had the military to protect us since they TRIED to get paul fired telling them he's homicidal and he's a maniac etc etc. kevin lied and told them they had the phone call dates and recordings of threats etc and would bring them in to bring charges on paul, but that didn't happen and they were very heavily warned by 2 units and the MPs to not waste their time or they will be criminally charged.
2. you as a single mom does not need the pressure to loose ongoing employment from them possible making a civil case against you. they are too poor to file one though.. lol
3. keep all your relevant paperwork .even with tom era. if you cant find something, make a paper note of what was on it and the date and keep it close. positive or negative, keep it.
they have the audacity to state that there were drugs on the propery etc, and that you were arrested etc, so if they can say that on here, theres nothing they WONT say, truth or lies about anyone so just keep everything.
your family is most important, keep that in mind. don't let your guard down. if you can get a dashcamera in your car so if they destroy or wreck your car, its recorded.
their idiots, most of all, glad you learned your lesson. life is full of lessons..
WHENS THE EXAM????
oh, and I have some new tack that was donated to me by a friend, its freaking new, it doesn't match her horse or something so she gave it to me. Christmas present to you., your the only one I know that rides western.
that's all I wanted to talk to you about.
that saved me from having to change out of my pajamas.. kinda enjoyed this better. thanks andrea.
Paul, I thought they had previously filed bankruptcy a couple of years ago according to a post on Rip Off reports . Wonder if they are discharged . Also if they are as you indicate hurting animals has SPCA been involved or notified??
ReplyDeletegary has NOT been discharged, his is significant. kevin is still under bankruptcy but creditors have released kevin due to gary owning most of everything. they are not in bankruptcy yet. just consumer protection. I called yesterday after seeing these posts. they can still be in business.until the decision is reached. they are not allowed to be associated with AEF as a business due to their rules and regulations so any riders and owners are having to be covered under their own memberships with AEF. Capri is also apparently dropping them also due to premiums not being paid.
Deletereguarding evidence and notifiying the authorities of the incidents.
DeleteI personally have recorded multiple events of rcmp and spca trucks in the mornings when Im going to work, them parked up and down the road. officers in the fence lines and a horse being led into a spca truck.
we have had multiple interviews with spca investigators and have handed over photographic evidence of negligence and abuse of the horses. im not a horse lover but im compassionate and they are all about the money, not about the care. its a cheap place, run by amatures. the running file though is getting larger by each complaint.
Thx Paul. So has trustee been notified of monies they are bringing in through lessons , board and rent paid for house on property??
ReplyDeleteI will look for trustee name and call .
ReplyDeletegive it a go.
Deletethat information was protected apparently but I suspect truck, car, credit cards and or mortgage payments are not being paid on garys side. he has a good job at Edmonton transit, I don't understand how he couldn't be making ends meet with the amount of horses in the field and ones in paddock at max capacity if you do your math you can realize that he could be making 6000-7000-10,000 a month just in boarding alone, then lessons etc and training fees. he has no reason to be in bankruptcy.
ReplyDeleteAgain Thx Paul. Do we know if they have a current business licence with City of St Albert?? Also wonder is this a registered limited business .
ReplyDeleteyes when I enquired he did but that might not be the case now due to degree of complaints. I'd check with st alberta city hall on Monday after 930 and see if the number on the kijiji add is legit. I would but I have too much going on
Deleteto not good
ReplyDeleteon his add on kijiji as of tonight, this is what is on that add second one down.
Spartacus Stables is LICENCE 00009816
use this as a reference point.
Thx. Doing all my research.. Going to be fun.. I will keep you updated as I go.
ReplyDeleteFound the name of the trustee as well
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